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Post by Arrogance on Jan 5, 2010 18:33:30 GMT -7
Every planet has a troop type that is associated with it, and is only available to a certain faction at times. When in control of the planet, the right faction can purcahse these troops.
Kashyyyk- Wookiee troopers- Wookiees are strong-headed furry warriors, with a specialization in crossbows. They are very effective in close combat, though their numbers are often depleted due to Empire slavery. (2.0x in close quarters) 1000 Credits x 100 Wookiees Not available to Empire
Naboo- Gungan Calvalry- Gungans are skilled combatants when they have speed on their side. They specialize in defence, and move faster than most when on the backs of their steeds. However, most Gungans prefer to stay on their home planet of Naboo. (2.0x movement speed, 1.5x damage when defending - only half of each troop purchase may be moved off of Naboo) 1000 Credits x 300 Gungans & steeds Only available upon assisting/befriending the Gungans on the planet
Okay, I need people to tell me what planets and troops to add to this. I would have done Genosia, but we don't have Genosia. Somebody, go fix that.
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Post by Draque on Jan 5, 2010 18:54:33 GMT -7
You cant conquer Kashyyk if it already has a civilization. Unless you're the Empire. So you should be able to use Wookies while ON Kashyyk and not on another planet. That's the only problem I have with this.
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Post by Tycan Erah'lav on Jan 5, 2010 19:34:41 GMT -7
I don't agree. If the anyone decided to free Kashyyk from the Empire then it's reasonable to assume that wookies might decided to fight with them.
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Post by Draque on Jan 5, 2010 19:51:54 GMT -7
Assuming is one thing. You remember seeing a Wookie anywhere but on Kashyyk during the clone Wars? Would you leave your house and family to go help another? The Wookies wouldn't leave their people to serve in some war. Especially not the amount your talking about.
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Post by Tycan Erah'lav on Jan 5, 2010 20:14:00 GMT -7
Why not? Plenty of Wookies didn't live on Kashyyk, do I honestly need to provide an example? And if the Kashyyk was part of the Alliance it would be as a member, any member of the alliance could provide troops. As for the the Clone Wars, there are far more humans and for that matter Clones in the galaxy, by sheer probability it's not likely that Wookie troops would be seen off planet. Most of them were busy fighting on Kashyyk anyway, it's not like they're all going to just leave to fight somewhere else while the Confederacy is taking over.
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Post by Draque on Jan 5, 2010 20:25:14 GMT -7
Just because they liberate the planet, it doesn't make the planet a member of the Alliance. Of course, it would be generous to use resources to keep soldiers on the planet even though the Wookies didn't choose to be members of the alliance but it would also be a waste of resources. You can't force them to be part of the alliance. Point is, they wouldn't leave their people to fight on a different planet. They would stay and defend their people. As for the Wookies you find out in the galaxy are a few. They are a close tribe of people with a strong code and tradition. You could almost compare them to the Native Americans. Therefore, it wouldn't be even slightly likely that a certain faction could produce so many Wookie soldiers, if any at all.
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Post by Tycan Erah'lav on Jan 5, 2010 20:37:01 GMT -7
You're entire argument is based on the Wookies wouldn't give any troops if they aren't a member of the alliance. Therefore if the Alliance claims Kashyyk and RPs the Wookies joining, then they can field Wookie troops. Since we've broken from the actual story in many ways I see no problem to this.
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Post by Draque on Jan 5, 2010 20:52:44 GMT -7
Up until now, no one has controlled the actions of an UNcontrolled planet. I liberated Thyferra for the Alliance but that's all you're allowed to do. Or at least what it should be. Letting members govern what the planet's people would do is risky business. Liberating is one thing. Saying they join your army is another.
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Post by Tycan Erah'lav on Jan 5, 2010 20:58:44 GMT -7
It's already implied that you can. If the Empire conquers anywhere it's part of the Empire, if the rebels or phoenix liberate it then it stands to reason they'd be part of it. Also if you capture a planet you get to use it, like the droid factories or clone facilities. How would this happen if you don't get to have some control over the planet? It's not like Kamino say "thanks for liberating us, we're not giving you any clones." Members already get to control the actions of planets.
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Post by Draque on Jan 5, 2010 21:05:12 GMT -7
I would agree with the fact that it stands to reason that the people of the planet would most likely be a part of the Alliance but it doesn't mean they have control of the planet's resources without permission from the government within the planet itself. Now controlling teh planet is different from liberating it. The Empire decides to control the planet fine. They can do whatever they want because tehy have a stronger army. But the goal of the Alliance is to liberate planets and defeat the Empire. What would it look liek if they went around saying, "This planet is under Alliance control and you will now join our army"? It just isn't done.
The Empire conquers. The Alliance and Phoenix liberate. Unless they WANT to conquer. Than go ahead. And the droid factory was on a planet with no government or civilization. T It was an old factory shut down since the Clone Wars. They didn't need permission to take it. Specially if they're conquering it from the EMPIRE and not other star systems.
((If only this board still gave you credits. We'd be rich by now XD))
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Post by Tycan Erah'lav on Jan 5, 2010 21:12:49 GMT -7
If, for example, the Alliance liberates Kashyyk, what's the problem with a bit of RP that brings Kashyyk into the Alliance? It gives the Alliance the benefits, makes sense and promotes good writing.
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Post by Draque on Jan 5, 2010 21:21:02 GMT -7
It's not about promoting good writing, it's about what's fair and logical. The bonuses the planets give the factions is preset by the Administrators. To allow the use of Wookies you'd have to give the planet that said bonus.
and if the Alliance can come in and say they use Wookies now why can't the Empire do the same? They can say they forced them into it. Wookie slavery. So now only your faction uses the Wookies and the Empire can't even though they control the planet. So if the Empire can't have so much control of the planet that they can force Wookies to fight for them, how can any other faction like the Alliance have so much that they automatically have Wookie warriors?
This is all beside the point though. we know, from Wookie traditions and culture that they wouldn't lend a fighting force to any faction in a battle outside of their homeworld. They would be leaving the women and children of Kashyyk without it's warriors.
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Post by Tycan Erah'lav on Jan 5, 2010 21:25:56 GMT -7
The Empire already gets huge bonuses. They can recruit mercenaries as well as storm troopers etc, and they owned both cloning facilities and droid factories from the start, even though the Empire is never shown to use droids.
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Post by Draque on Jan 5, 2010 21:37:10 GMT -7
They get the same benefits as everyone else. Their units have the same stats but different names. Rebels most capable soldiers are Mandalorians while the Empires' are the Clone Commandos. And they both are equally matches in combat. As for the Cloning facilities: they only have ONE extra facility and it just makes the units cheaper. Taking it out will prevent this. Their main one is on Coruscant which gives them NO bonus. They have to own BOTH. which at the moment they do. But Phoenix also has 2 droid factories that give them the same bonus. So the argument still stands that the Wookies wouldn't abandon their world to fight somewhere else, leaving the mothers and children behind. You have to consider the amount of Wookies your talking about.
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Post by Sankichi Samaya on Jan 5, 2010 22:18:12 GMT -7
THIS ISN'T ABOUT FACTION-RACISM. I ASKED FOR EMPIRE SUGGESTIONS, DAMNIT.
And Draque, this was all recommended in the Suggestions thread, so maybe you could've discussed it there? That way you WOULD have been a rich bastard. xD
I can easily change the rule to be the same as the Gungan one... Or, maybe all the races would be like that. Anyways, could you also suggest some more planets? Empire planets would definitely be good.
Also, the idea was that some races are more loyal to one faction than the other.
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